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Re: Skip or not?

Post by JudyN » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:14 pm

I'm also going for 'ouch'. Have you ever noticed him do this before he hurt his cruciate? If it's a new thing, then of course it's more likely to be related to the injury than if he did it before as well.
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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:21 pm

He has always gone into a bunny hopping type canter when he's inbetween sprinting and jogging. He was in zero pain when he used to do it, we had him thoroughly checked out, it was just the way he ran. He usually did it when his nose was on the floor and he was doing 'speed sniffing.'

Here is a short snippet from one of his walks pre injury showing you what I mean.

https://youtu.be/YDUErMKmJ00 - no idea why the quality is poor.

Edit: https://youtu.be/ds_VR8whSV8 another vid of him hop-running. Warning, its cute almost teenage Merlin back before I ran to this forum for help. :lol:

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by ZaraD » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:14 pm

Merlin you at soooooooo cute , so cute you make me tempted to own a German sprtiz :lol:

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:45 am

Thankyou! I won't show you an 8 week old Merlin playing fetch then, you'll be googling German Spitz breeders before you know it and be forced to live a lifetime of barking misery! :lol:

Because it was clear he only skipped when he jerked forward yesterday, I did my best to totally limit his pulling. So he had LOTS of noms, but the results speak for themselves. He only did the lunging forward skip once, and only 'snapped' at his thigh once (means his muscle twinged but his ligament wasn't hurt). Unfortunately he did decide to do a spin from a sit today for no reason and ended up limping for two steps (before the walk), but I hope that hasn't reversed any healing done.

Here is this mornings vid, if you can take a look and see if you can see things I don't. I am contemplating buying another playpen and just sitting in it with him but I will only do that if he's not showing any improvement at the moment. Skip passed the monster wee and pooing. He no longer marks since the neuter, so he just saves it all up for one big wee. :lol:

https://youtu.be/SZkn9uyTAOk

On a side note, I think the Yucalm is working. He is less anxious and able to just 'sigh and lay down' when he realises he's not going out on his walks. Before he would run up to me and bark. He is wearing an adaptil collar and is surrounded by plugins aswell though. He really is taking this bed rest like a champ this time, I am so proud of him.

After two solid hours of brain puzzles (5 diff puzzles) I finally saw that brain of his getting tired. None of the vegetables we've tried have worked, but since we know he likes coconut we're going to get one of those. Also with the cauliflower he ripped all the leaves off then got bored, so we're getting him a lettuce! Some Bully Pizzles should be arriving today, I might not tell my partner what they are... :lol:

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Shalista » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:09 am

Lotsaquestions wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:45 am
Bully Pizzles
oh my..... :oops: :oops: :oops: :lol:
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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:25 pm

If I had a penny for everytime I heard 'my dog chewed it for hours' on a review of a dog chew, and then Merlin just either not like it, eat it in seconds, bury it, or chew it for ten mins and get bored, I would be rich! Bully sticks, however, seem to be the exception. At least at the moment!

15mins and counting, he's still laying there chewing it. Longer than any chew he's had before, normally he's bored long before now. He even got bored of his duck necks, and left the carcass on the sofa as he mooched around. Very pleased!

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by ZaraD » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:38 pm

Lotsaquestions wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:25 pm
If I had a penny for everytime I heard 'my dog chewed it for hours' on a review of a dog chew, and then Merlin just either not like it, eat it in seconds, bury it, or chew it for ten mins and get bored, I would be rich! Bully sticks, however, seem to be the exception. At least at the moment!

15mins and counting, he's still laying there chewing it. Longer than any chew he's had before, normally he's bored long before now. He even got bored of his duck necks, and left the carcass on the sofa as he mooched around. Very pleased!
Fingers crossed, Sampson on eats bully sticks or lamb ribs , any other chew he ignores and any other meaty bone he looks at me as what the hell is that :lol:

Did the vet get back to you about progress?

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:18 pm

No, I am going to ring them tomorrow just incase they missed the email. His leg has been great today which makes me hopeful!

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:48 pm

Had a call back. Its both good news and bad news. Bad news is he apparently shouldn't be skipping at all at the moment, but the good news is he is being referred to a specialist. Will know in 2-3 days what is going to happen next.

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by ZaraD » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:35 am

Lotsaquestions wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:48 pm
Had a call back. Its both good news and bad news. Bad news is he apparently shouldn't be skipping at all at the moment, but the good news is he is being referred to a specialist. Will know in 2-3 days what is going to happen next.
I'm glad he's been referred to a specialist and hope now you can get all the Answers and advice you need to help merlin recover :D

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:49 am

Have been awake since 4am worrying about it. I really don't want him to have exploratory surgery, so I might see if we can get an MRI or whatever instead. Been reading up on the surgerys available, and 1/3 of patients have complications and don't regain full use of their leg. :cry:

Annoying thing is 90% of the time he's fine, its just when he jerks forward or twists his leg that he limps. I've tried everything short of crate rest, which I've heard isn't advised because the joint needs mobility, to stop him from being an idiot. I was just hoping that inbetween him being an idiot it had time to heal. And I am furious at the vet giving him the all clear to go off lead, without a doubt I think that made his injury worse as he's skipping more now than when he did when we first noticed it, when he was on zero painkillers.

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by ZaraD » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:54 am

Lotsaquestions wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:49 am
Have been awake since 4am worrying about it. I really don't want him to have exploratory surgery, so I might see if we can get an MRI or whatever instead. Been reading up on the surgerys available, and 1/3 of patients have complications and don't regain full use of their leg. :cry:

Annoying thing is 90% of the time he's fine, its just when he jerks forward or twists his leg that he limps. I've tried everything short of crate rest, which I've heard isn't advised because the joint needs mobility, to stop him from being an idiot. I was just hoping that inbetween him being an idiot it had time to heal. And I am furious at the vet giving him the all clear to go off lead, without a doubt I think that made his injury worse as he's skipping more now than when he did when we first noticed it, when he was on zero painkillers.
That's why I would worried about surgery if it doesn't work or makes things worser, I would definitely try to have an MRI if he hasn't already, as that will show more than a normal x-ray, always listen to your gut on what you think is best for him as you know him better than the vet.

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:19 am

Why not to get a German Spitz;

https://youtu.be/eEjmaDleetE

I normally ignore all attention barking, he knows this, so he's added jumping up. He knows I no longer ignore jumping up because of his leg, I rush to take weight off his leg and gently lower him back down. So that means he's jumping up more, but all attempts at getting attention must include barking. :roll:

He has done two hours of brain puzzles, had very gentle play (him laying down while I wobble his head with a toy), and had an ice lolly, but he's still wanting more attention. Trying to ignore him so he settles, normally it works, today for some reason its not. He is currently barking at birds telling them to get off his lawn, but at least he's standing in one spot doing it...

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Lotsaquestions » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:46 am

Possibly AMAZING news. The vet got back to me, as the consultant got back to him. He has also posted the video on an international vet forum. Merlin MIGHT just be a weirdo. Yep! He might no longer be in pain, but has something with a long name that started with 'idiosynpathic' which basically means he has a 'tick' in his walk.

Because off lead he shows no sign of it, he fully puts weight on it, and painkillers do nothing, they are exploring this apparently rare condition. He is going to possibly go to Willows just to properly check him over if they feel it necessary just to make sure.

They also suggested it could be something to do with his tendons, but I am hoping for 'no further treatment and he is not in any pain' diagnosis. :lol:

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Re: Skip or not?

Post by Nettle » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:31 pm

"Idiopathic" is medical-speak for "We don't know the cause".
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