What she loves about them

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What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:38 am

so my friend has read all the advice and agrees structure is important as is temperament and agrees that working lines are more for when she has a lot of experience but she really isn't interested in owning any other breed.
She's at my house now and will be all day, shes like a sister to me and hate seeing her so upset not knowing what to do. She love the breed so much shes been really upset about this.

She was brought up around them and has always been memorized by them. When she sees one she gets excited and her heart beats a little faster, she loves there loyal, indifferent with strangers, sensible , affectionate with owners, intelligent, willing to please and easy to train. There energy levels match here.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by Lotsaquestions » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:55 am

Alot of Spitz breeds would fit the bill, some more than others. Akita, for example, but from a temperament tested line. Chow Chows again can be indifferent to strangers, but again they would need to come from a good tempered line. I think Chow Chows are a bit hard to train though.

Loads of guardian / herding breeds will meet much of the criteria. Finnish Lapphunds are friendly, but not Lab friendly. Very easy to train, takes as much exercise as a GSD, and are extreamly healthy as a breed. Eurasier dogs are new on the scene, but are very family orientated and neutral to strangers (from the Chow Chow in their lines). Since they are new there is alot of variation so check the parents! Lovely dogs though.

Most Spitz dogs would, on paper, fail the 'willing to please' aspect BUT I've found with the right motivation they are great. Lapphunds, for example, have won obedience comps. They won't coming crawling back to you for a simple pat on the head though. :lol:

I can't think of anymore off the top of my head, I'll add some more ideas when they come to me. Lurchers with the right combination of brains / sighthound might be up there, but they don't look anything like GSDs if she likes the look.

Edit: Northern Inuit! But I think they get quite a bit of 'really love everyone' from the husky in their lines. They do have GSD in there too.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:01 am

Thank you so much , they were things she like in a GSD so I can tell you in more detail what she wants for example she likes the willing to please in GSD but it would not be needed in other breeds. I do a longer list. But list aimed at other breeds. Also are spritz fairly easy to find in the UK and the lapphund?

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:03 am

She's looked at northerns as she likes that look but all the good breeder kept saying there not first dogs.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by Lotsaquestions » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:11 am

Lapphunds aren't super rare. Elbereth is an amazing kennels and the breeder will be happy to talk you through the breed itself. I am thinking of one myself so I have researched them quite a bit.

Spitz dogs are pretty easy to find now they are 'in fashion' but sorting the good from the bad will be a job she'd have to do, especially for something like an Akita where a good temperament is a must. I only listed the larger Spitz' that pop into my head as matching the neutral to strangers, there are smaller ones too (Japanese Spitz, German Spitz) that have lots of energy and a easy to train (with the right motivation). They are small / medium though.

What about a border collie? None working collies from good steady lines aren't soppy dogs, very loyal, very easy to train, and will have energy in spades. Again good lines is a must because they can also be a bit neurotic.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by Lotsaquestions » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:15 am

Rottweiler! I knew there was another one.

Hugely smart dogs, very easy to train, very loyal, large. They do look a bit scary though, and would need the same socialisation guidance as a GSD.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:21 am

Large in size no bigger than an German shepherd

a dog who's not hyper by this I mean can settle down in the evening and is calm in nature ( I'm taking about an adult as I know puppy's are crazy for the first year or so) ,

pretty healthy compared with the GSD for example,

does not drool to the extent of a newf,

is great with other dogs,

is indifferent to strangers but not a dog who love everyone as that's what put her of labs. But she does not won't a guard dog or a dog who will be very wary of strangers just is ok with strangers but isn't bothered if there or not and is loyal to her not like labs who greet strangers like long lost family

grooming is not an issue as I'll do it for her

She like a playful dog and one who is fairly easy to train

who's good natured and is a good choice for a newbie.

And energy levels no more than a GSD for example a Weimaraner although stunning dog would be to much for her.

Not an overly vocal breed like shelties or terriers.

Exercise physical would be 4x a week 2hrs a day mix of off leash running and walking
Then the other 3x a week would be long country walk which would be all day.

The dog does not have to be willing to please like a shepherd just daily easy to train to be well mannered.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by Nettle » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:26 am

Keep away from Akitas and Malemutes - they are not first dogs either.
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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:28 am

Ok so lapphund , chow chows , Akita's she likes but I always thought that Akita's and rotties are not for first time owners.

Mind you what she picks she will put a lot of research in and meet as many of the breed as she can and will also be getting help from day one with someone like emmabeth.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:32 am

Nettle wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:26 am
Keep away from Akitas and Malemutes - they are not first dogs either.
What about lapphunds Nettle? Or do you have any recommendations?

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by Lotsaquestions » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:40 am

Great with other dogs? Scrap the Chow Chow and Akita then for definate. Also scrap any Spitz if barking is an issue (except for the Eurasier - they still fit almost all of the criteria).

If its just indifferent to strangers then most dogs would fall under this category outside of the Gundog group, in my experience. Its only spaniels / labs that will jump all over everyone they meet that I've encountered, most will say a polite hello if you look interested.

Rottweiler I don't think are that hard for fire time owners, so long as they have been bred properly. I've seen so many with first timers and they always have a happy wagging tail (but won't bowl me over for a stroke). I don't know what they are like with dogs, I've never encountered one with my dog in tow.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:44 am

Shame about spritz as we were reading on the lapphunds and she started to like them but yes very vocal dogs are a no. Rottweiler is also a no? So back to square one?

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by Lotsaquestions » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:45 am

Eurasier! They supposedly only bark when they need to. Gorgeous dogs to boot.

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:52 am

Were looking at the Eurasier now but we looked at the breeders website you mentioned for the lapphund and she says there not vocal if you don't let be. http://www.finnishlapphund.uk/faq/

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Re: What she loves about them

Post by ZaraD » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:55 am

Are Eurasier rare as we can't find how rare they are, we read there a cross between the chow and the GSD :D

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