Which Breed?

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Which Breed?

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We are thinking of finally getting our own dog this summer. But the wish-list is quite long:
Not too big - border collie sized or preferably smaller.
Not too much of a coat that needs a lot of grooming, though also not a fan of super-short, or wire haired dogs.
Quite an active breed that wants and needs a good walk, say 3-5 miles each day, but capable of longer once in a while.
Okay, when older, to be left alone for the odd day, though I mostly work at home so will be around for attention when needed.
Placid temperament and good with people and other dogs, but not too much of a "wimp" (like the family Sheltie tends to be)
Will have a decent garden to run around in also.

Someone I know is looking for some breed recommendations. Having only experience with 2 dogs so far :lol: I thought I'd tap into our wealth of knowledge here instead :D
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my immediate thought is some sort of terrier - it fits everything bar the 'placid' part - so long as the coat is right
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Well, there's no doubt I'm biased, but she just described my Piper to a "T", so I would say a Pembroke Corgi is a good choice to meet all her criteria. :) :)
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my first thought i a brittany. they're of medium size and have medium coat that doesn't require much in the way of care, however it's not the super short coat and it feels nice to pet! they're 17 to 20 inches at the shoulder and weigh from 35 to 45 lbs

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clever dogs but not super 'needy' ....

my other thought is a bit more unusual and that's a lagotto. again, medium size, not wiry to pet........the grooming is a bit more in that you'd want to maybe have them clipped down 3 times a year or so, other than that, they'd be much easier to keep tangle free than a sheltie! also, many consider the non-shedding a BIG bonus

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Thank you both, I will pass them on :D It's a lovely time when you're looking for the perfect dog for you - the nicest thing is that they gave me this list without any prompting, so they're clearly thinking hard about it and coming up with the right answers all on their own :)

For a minute there the Lagotto looked ENORMOUS based on the pugs in the background... then I realised the Lagotto was on a table :lol:
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No offence Suzette but I can't imagine a corgi doing some of the more challenging walks I expect my terriers to do, and I suspect that is more in line with the "longer" walks that minkees friend has in mind (though of course I don't know).

If they want border collie size why have they ruled out border collies? Obviously VERY high energy, but with the right training they seem to fit the requirements.

I have to admit my first thought was a spaniel of some kind though.

Or a beagle maybe?
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I don't think they HAVE ruled anything out, were just not too up on their dog breeds so didn't know what they were missing :)
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If it's any help Honey only has Corgi sized legs and she has done some fairly tough walks such as a 15km walk over Howth Head. These breeds were bred to work and even though their legs don't look like much use they can still cover some ground :D .
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bendog wrote:No offence Suzette but I can't imagine a corgi doing some of the more challenging walks I expect my terriers to do, and I suspect that is more in line with the "longer" walks that minkees friend has in mind (though of course I don't know).

No offense taken. :wink: But yes, Piper's fully capable of the three to five miles that Minkee mentioned her friends would like a dog to be able to do. Two or three times a week we take Piper to the mountains and hike the trails, some well traveled, others more like trailblazing. A typical hike for us is at least three miles, occasionally longer. She does great and never misses a beat. And since she's off leash for most of the hike, she actually covers even more ground than us (you know, the back and forth they do). Of course, we take breaks if we think she needs one, but it's quite rare that she asks for one. :wink: :D

We built up to this pace and this distance, always with Piper's well-being in mind and letting her determine how much is enough. When we get home, she's properly tired, but always still wants to go out in the back yard and play a few games of chase with her disc. And she's tiny for a Corgi at 18 pounds versus the 25 that most females are. So anyway, all that to say that I stand by my suggestion - a corgi! :D :D :D
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A typical "hike" for me is 5-8 miles, sometimes up to 12 miles.

It's not the distance that worries me though, more the terrain. Grassland or paths is fine of course but sometimes we go over very rough rocky terrain. There have been times I have had to give Charlie a bump up some of the steeper rocks as he isn't as experienced at scrambling up them yet. But the others do just fine but I really don't think breeds with shorter legs could do it. I walk Bassets and although they are easily capable of 5 miles or more, they would not be capable of handling some of the rocky terrain (even deep mud poses a bit of a problem!) so I just couldn't imagine a corgi doing it. However some dogs with longer legs or not particularly agile would also struggle a lot. I also imagine it might take a lot longer to get anywhere with a breed with little legs :lol:. We can cover 6 miles in under two hours, whereas a pug I walk barely does two miles in an hour.

I can't really find a good example of a particularly rocky walk but I guess this picture illustrates it slightly
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When we go walking in the mountains we pretty much only ever see border collies, Labradors, terriers and spaniels.

I also think for longer walks a dog that is small enough to be lifted over non dog friendly stiles, or agile enough to jump them is essential too.

I love corgis, and they may be perfect for your friend minkee, but they wouldn't suit my lifestyle
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WufWuf wrote:If it's any help Honey only has Corgi sized legs and she has done some fairly tough walks such as a 15km walk over Howth Head. These breeds were bred to work and even though their legs don't look like much use they can still cover some ground :D .
Couldn't agree more. It amazes me how little even the roughest terrain deters Piper. There has only been a time or two that we've had to give her a helping hand. She is one tough little cookie who adores a challenge! :lol: My husband calls her the Energizer Bunny, she just keeps going and going and going . . . :lol:

Minkee, I hope you'll share with us which breed your friend ultimately decides on. There are so many wonderful ones out there and several have already been mentioned in this thread. (I also have a soft spot in my heart for spaniels, especially Brittanys!) And I really love that she is thinking all this through beforehand! :D
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I am keeping a keen eye on the situation :D
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another poster mentioned a fondness for the nova scotia duck tolling retriever and it occurred to me that might also fit them........and i've got to add field spaniel to the mix.
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Re: Which Breed?

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I'm biased, but my first thought when I read the wishlist was a spaniel terrier cross! I thought spaniel at first, but the coat requires a lot of upkeep, and after a long muddy walk Jack almost always needs both a shower and a long groom.

Crossed with a terrier (short coat Jack Russell maybe) means there's still likely to be some feathering, but not as much, and a regular trim would keep it manageable.

A well-trained and socialised lab would be perfect for the wishlist, if not for the size, so crossed with something smaller might work.

If not, then I'd be inclined to look for a crossbreed of another kind. A good old mongrel! A collie cross, spaniel cross or lab cross could tick most of their boxes. Perhaps a rescue dog if they think they could go to a shelter and stick to their wishlist without giving in to the first appealing face they see.

Minkee, what breed or crossbreed is Scout? Because a dog like Scout sounds a lot like their wishlist as well! :D
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:D

Scout is a patterdale x lakeland terrier. I'm disinclined to recommend patties though, as Scout seems to be a rarity when you see the people with them on this forum!
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