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GIVE PUPPY?

Poll ended at Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:57 pm

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DEBBIE2569
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HELP HAVE ISSUE

Post by DEBBIE2569 »

how do i edit it to take off all caps? without re typing it all?





i KINDA KNOW THE ANSWER ALREADY BUT ITS SO HARD FOR ME. MY DAUGHTERS DOG HAD PUPPIES AND HER BOYFRIENDS MOTHER WANTS ONE . YOU WOULD THINK GREAT WOULDN'T YOU EXCEPT I KNOW TO MUCH ABOUT THE FAMILY. ONE. THE HOUSE IS DISGUSTING DIRTY SMELLY NOT CLEAN NOW MIND YOU MY HOUSE IS MESSY AT TIMES TOO. BUT I DO EVENTUALLY CLEAN IT. NOW ALSO HER HUSBAND JUST DIED. AND SHE NEEDS TO PUT DOWN HER OLDEST DOG BECAUSE IT IS DEAF BLIND AND CANT WALK. NOW MAYBE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE PUT DOWN BUT IT CANT EVEN BE GROOMED CAUSE IT WONT LET THEM.NOW THE MOTHER HAS PAID FOR INTENSIVE SURGERY FOR THE ONE DOGS LEG SURGERY BUT THE DOG STILL CANT WALK WELL. NOW ANOTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE A DOG THAT IS ALWAYS IN A CAGE. IT IS THE ONE DAUGHTERS AND SHE WONT EVEN THINK ABOUT FINDING IT A FARM OR SOMETHING TO RUN. AND ITS MEAN IT BEARS ITS TEETH AT STRANGERS AND WOULD ATTACK IF NOT IN THE CAGE I THINK. I AM NOT AS BRAVE AS VICTORIA TO TO TRY HER TRAINING TECH. THEY SAY THE DOG COMES OUT WHEN AMBER IS HOME BUT I KNOW IT REALLY DOESN'T. MY DAUGHTER TELLS ME. AND WHEN IT DOES IT TEREIZES THE SMALLER DOGS. YES THERE ARE TWO SMALL LIKE SHITZU AND THE OTHER DOG IS A AMERICAN ESKIMO MIN I THINK. ITS HIGH STRUNG TO BE IN A CAGE ALL DAY I THINK. I WATCH ALL THE SHOWS AND HAVE DOGS OF MY OWN BUT HOW DO I TELL SOMEONE HOW TO LIVE ? MY DAUGHTER WANTS TO GIVE THEM ONE OF OUR PUPPIES . HELP I DO LIKE THEM AS PEOPLE I JUST DONT KNOW ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT . PLEASE HELP[/quote]
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Post by DEBBIE2569 »

ughhhhh why wont any one give a opinion do you need more info? please ask i need more opinion's to either support or not ..
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Post by emmabeth »

Hey... give people a chance your poll was only up for an hour!

Whilst I am in Bossy Mode - please check before you hit 'submit' that your post is not all in capitals - I can see what you have done, accidentally had capslock on, but there is no edit function so check before you post, as capitals are very hard to read.

Bossy Mode off - now ill go read your post and vote, always love a poll :lol:
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Post by emmabeth »

Ok, jeeeeeez, NO. No No No No No.

She needs to sort out her existing dogs problems before taking on anything else.

By most peoples standards my house is a filth-pit, filth however (obviously not a dangerous level of filth) is not something dogs are particularly bothered by, so thats not the problem here.

What IS the problem is that this lady is clearly not dealing with the problems her current dogs have. Ask your daughter (NOT that it is her decision, it is YOURS), would she be happy if the pup ended up crated and aggressive?

Im sure she would not be, I'm sure she will probably say that that would not happen to this puppy, but thats just not good enough.

Say no, mean no, and if needs be, explain why. It is not fair on the puppy, nor on the existing dogs.

You dont have to explain anything unless they actually ask you, just say no.

You are right, keeping dogs crated all the time, failing to take steps to deal with a dogs aggression (which likely stems from fear and from lack of socialisation and exercise) is unkind, possibly cruel and it shows that this person has neither the skills, the time, or the interest, to sort them out.
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Re: HELP HAVE ISSUE

Post by thistledown »

There is a lot going on in your post, so I'll go through it a bit at a time:
DEBBIE2569 wrote:THE HOUSE IS DISGUSTING DIRTY SMELLY NOT CLEAN
not really relevant unless it is a health hazard
NOW ALSO HER HUSBAND JUST DIED.
ditto, not relevant
SHE NEEDS TO PUT DOWN HER OLDEST DOG BECAUSE IT IS DEAF BLIND AND CANT WALK.
so would I
IT CANT EVEN BE GROOMED CAUSE IT WONT LET THEM
.

rings warning bells
NOW THE MOTHER HAS PAID FOR INTENSIVE SURGERY FOR THE ONE DOGS LEG SURGERY
good for mother
BUT THE DOG STILL CANT WALK WELL
.

not mother's fault
NOW ANOTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE A DOG THAT IS ALWAYS IN A CAGE. IT IS THE ONE DAUGHTERS AND SHE WONT EVEN THINK ABOUT FINDING IT A FARM OR SOMETHING TO RUN. AND ITS MEAN IT BEARS ITS TEETH AT STRANGERS AND WOULD ATTACK IF NOT IN THE CAGE I THINK
.

ah, there's the problem
MY DAUGHTER WANTS TO GIVE THEM ONE OF OUR PUPPIES
.

you said earlier that it was your daughter's dog that had the puppies. Was it her dog before she left home, and she left her with you? Have you clearly established with your daughter that they are your puppies, even though you say the ***** is your daughters?

My advice would be to establish exactly who has the last word about homing the puppies - all of them. It seems odd that your daughter tells you all about the situation with the existing dogs and yet wants one of the pups to go there, so I personally wouldn't want her to have a say in placing any of the pups. When you establish that it is you who decide where the pups are to be placed, tell your daughter that as a responsible person you will only let the pups go to homes where any existing dogs are not 'work in progress' with issues.

Maybe your daughter has already promised a pup to mother in law. That would actually be a good thing IMO, because then she would have to explain why it is not possible this time, but maybe she could suggest a way of rehabilitating the dog in the crate - or suggest mother-in-law joins the forum :lol:

So I'd vote no, on the basis of the dog in the crate.
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Post by Owdb1tch »

No, for all the reasons given above.
Find the cause, find the cure.




A dog is never 'bad' or 'naughty'. It is simply behaving like a dog.
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Post by Mattie »

If the dog never comes out of the crate apart from toileting this needs reporting to the RSPCA or similar. Keeping a dog like this can turn a dog aggressive.

When my husband died 16 months ago it was my dogs that gave me a reason to get up every morning, feed myself and do normal human things. Without my dogs my life would have been a lot harder especially over Christmas which was 6 weeks after hubby passed away.
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Post by Horace's Mum »

I think you already know the answer, you just need to know you are right. I wouldn't give them a puppy until the dogs they have are happy dogs, well socialised and kept in an appropriate manner. But you already knew that. Stick by your puppies!
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Post by Bingles »

I have voted No, I think you know no is the right answer
DEBBIE2569
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Post by DEBBIE2569 »

thank you for all the help sorry i didn't write back sooner my password wasnt working. i did say no the the family i actually said i would hold on to the pup
and once they helped the American Eskimo adapt better i would let them have the puppy that was not a answer they wanted they got mad yelled and then went to the news paper and got a different dog. i just feel so bad for the American Eskimo i have found out they are really like a one dog dog and now they are mad at me they thought i had someone else for the pup and i didn't. good news thought our vet has a aunt who wants both girls. that is a good idea right she has a older pom a poo i am sure a vet would be a good judge of character. i am hopping.
thistledown
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Post by thistledown »

you did absolutely right by your pup by not letting him go to these people, well done for being firm. I'm sure a vet would know whether the new owner is responsible :)

All the best x
Maggie
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Post by Maggie »

I wouldnt have given them a pup either, but purley for the reason on the dog in a crate issues.

All the other stuff is not aat all relevent. I know lots of folks that would say a house is dirty and then others would say it was acceptable.... jeez you should see mine on dog wash day lol

Anyway. I think the dog in the crate needs to be sorted asap. Stick them in a crate 24/7 see how they would like it.
But you see, me being a gobshite would have just told them no and the reason.... Sorry not really one to beat about the bush. :?
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Post by Josie »

I would never rehome two female littermates together. That's just asking for trouble once they reach adolescence and the hormones kick in.
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